Yes reading this is exactly what I have been struggling with. I have about 10 friends on my site, but the others are friends of friends kinda thing. But it seems most stop at first level friends, lol. And yes people like to see things before they join. So having a site that is closed off to pubic can be a task to get people to join. It's like putting your hand in to the black box. You really don't know whats inside, but you take the step forward in hopes it is good. <<< it's this step that is painful for some, lol.