OneSignal saves our messages

I've said this before, so here i go again....

I think UNA/Online.me is awesome and will get better, but it's not a good idea to have a 3rd party saving our talks/messages in their servers. I had to delete my accounts due to that.

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    • I agree with you, of course there may be, but there must be other solutions, not just that one. Apart from the fact that it poses a problem of data confidentiality, I find that we must remain as independent as possible from the external services.
      I made the effort to host my own server to be as independent as possible, and I do not like being dependent on a lot of services, even if they are free.
      Do not forget one thing, when a service is free, in general we are ourselves the merchandise.
      Take the example of reCAPTCHA. Thank you Google for putting this wonderful tool at your disposal, how generous is it? What people do not know is that every time they use it they work for free for Google by associating words with images and perfecting their image recognition system.
      I know it is not always possible, but Una should develop his own solutions that would distinguish it even more from other cms.

      • Indeed Baloo, I'm even research on the Twilio to see where numbers, etc... get stored. Privacy is huge these days and the last thing that any of us need is for a user finding out that One Signal saves all messages/data. The rumors will spread like fire, plus many TOS/Privacy state "we don't share your information." Lawsuits will come by mail/birds/email/sticky notes, etc...

        • Indeed, OneSignal saves notifications. Not the entire message, but whatever goes into a notification. Indeed, it may be a problem for some sites. That's how they remain free. 

          Alternatives would be Amazon SNS, Google's Firebase, PushCrew or AimTell. Some are better in terms of privacy protection (like PushCrew), but you'd be expected to pay according to the number of subscribers (about $50/10,000 subscribers). 

          It is very unlikely that we'd be building our own push notifications infrastructure anytime soon. It's a complex backend, which may take up all of our time if we get into it. We may look into building on top of Amazon SNS though. The cost is only $0.50 per million notifications and there's more control in terms of how you handle the data. Would you see Amazon SNS as a good alternative?

          • It should be tested, but first of all Andrew, would it be possible to have an email notification for new messages on messenger? Or is it definitely not? I need an answer on this subject.

            • Hello!

              We will add ability to send email notifications https://github.com/unaio/jot-client-una/issues/60 in one of the nearest releases. 

              Also I think it is possible to add ability to encrypt messages using special keys which may be set individually for talk by members.

              • Alexey, many users are not advanced and the more difficult things are, the less they will return to the site.

                • Good news ! Thanks ! Encrypted, you mean it will solve the problem of confidentiality also on onsignal?

                  • Please what ever can be done for privacy, FB and other large social sites are screwing up on the privacy issue, so i think now is the time to take advantage. Just throwing this out there.

                    • Hi Andrew, i was reading a bit into Amazon SNS, below are a copied part of functions...

                      Owner operations:

                                 

                      • CreateTopic – Create a new topic.
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                      • DeleteTopic – Delete a previously created topic.
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                      • ListTopics – List of topics owned by a particular user (AWS ID).
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                      • ListSubscriptionsByTopic – List of subscriptions for a particular topic
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                      • SetTopicAttributes – Set/modify topic attributes, including setting and modifying publisher/subscriber permissions, transports supported, etc.
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                      • GetTopicAttributes – Get/view existing attributes of a topic
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                      • AddPermission – Grant access to selected users for the specified actions
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                      • RemovePermission – Remove permissions for selected users for the specified actions

                                 

                      Subscriber operations:

                                 

                      • Subscribe – Register a new subscription on a particular topic, which will generate a confirmation message from Amazon SNS
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                      • ConfirmSubscription – Respond to a subscription confirmation message, confirming the subscription request to receive notifications from the subscribed topic
                      •             
                      • UnSubscribe – Cancel a previously registered subscription
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                      • ListSubscriptions – List subscriptions owned by a particular user (AWS ID)

                                 

                      Publisher operations:

                                 

                      • Publish: Publish a new message to the topic.

                                                                       

                      Q: Why are there two different APIs to list subscriptions?

                                 

                      The two APIs to list subscriptions perform different functions and return different results:

                                 

                      • The ListSubscriptionsByTopic API allows a topic owner to see the list of all subscribers actively registered to a topic.
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                      • The ListSubscriptions API allows a user to get a list of all their active subscriptions (to one or more topics).

                       Q: What are the different delivery formats/transports for receiving notifications?

                      In order for customers to have broad flexibility of delivery mechanisms, Amazon SNS supports notifications over multiple transport protocols. Customers can select one the following transports as part of the subscription requests:

                        

                      If anyone wants to learn more click here https://aws.amazon.com/sns/faqs/

                      Andrew from the bit that i was reading it sounds like a great idea, but please keep in mind that a lot of our users on our sites prefer easy functions and many don't like technical obstacles. The easier a task is the better for them, but as you know security is huge and with all that FB is going thru do to that congress issue, now is the time to take advantage, just saying. :)

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